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Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Turned down. Harald made me sad :(

I finally heard back from Harald with regards Corporate Sponsorship.

I apologize for the delay in getting back to you, I had a week off the week before last, and last week I was offline while waiting for our telephone company to replace a faulty DSL modem. Regarding your enquiry to participate in the osCommerce Corporate Sponsorship program, I do not think a healthy relationship currently exists between yourself and the osCommerce team, and do not see how participation in the sponsorship program can work out when issues arise in the future as to how we manage the project. I hope the relationship between us can change for the better in the near future, and look forward to your participation in the sponsorship program at that time.
To me, this is kind of strange, as something has happened in the past couple of months to cause this, considering that only a little while back I was asked for my views and comments on the new Advertising Scheme well before it was publically announced even. Further, I have no communications with any of the Team as I have "Johnson" on ignore. And no other Team Member has recently spoken with me about any matter other than the fact that I started a Competition in my official osCommerce Blog which was hysterically stamped upon by Harald - I point blank refused his demand to withdraw a prize from the Competition. Anyway... In addition, Harald never asked which Company would be sponsoring the project - so the decision cannot be a business one. It has to be personal, which I find strange. Ho hum. Looks like I'll spend the advertising budget on Adsense as I normally do. In the meantime, as the Team has decided that I am not a healthy participant of osCommerce, I have requested that the personal "Community Sponsorship" be cancelled.

New URL: www.osworld.biz - thanks!


At 7/26/2005 07:10:00 PM, Anonymous Wil Rushmer said...

osCommerce is and has been going downhill for quite sometime, on of the reasons I have not bothered not to update devhype.com in a very, very long time. I don't see the point when all I got was complaints and bickering from the team members over there. Harald and his team sit on a pedestal, its a shame becuase the project would have greater potential under different circumstances.

At 7/27/2005 10:34:00 AM, Blogger Gary B. said...

I agree.

What's doubly annoying about it is that the two (currently existing) Corporate Sponsors are never seen in the Forums helping out people, answering questions, creating contributions and so on.

And yet, someone who is active in the Forums (in fact a top 10 poster!) and has helped countless people over the past 4 years is refused.

It's annoying and pretty obvious that there are issues over at osCommerce that are more than skin deep.

At 7/27/2005 12:48:00 PM, Blogger mikeq said...

They are incredible over there. I'm in trouble again LOL, you can read about it on my blog

At 7/27/2005 08:40:00 PM, Blogger mikeq said...

I hope the relationship between us can change for the better in the near future, and look forward to your participation in the sponsorship program at
that time.

So it looks like you are the one thats got to do the changing Gary. Just reminds me of RoboCop, you have 30 seconds to comply...

At 7/28/2005 06:06:00 AM, Blogger Gary B. said...

Indeed, it's me who has the wrong attitude ;)

Let's see:
~ The hundreds of hours helping out Community Members at no charge.
~ 3500 posts (99% of which are helping others out).
~ Thousands of Dollars in Donations to the osCommerce Team
~ Community Sponsorship Member
~ 1-on-1 advice given to Harald
~ xHTML Layout given to the Team
~ over 50 contributions and countless idea threads started.

Does that sound like someone who does not care about osCommerce and the Community.

The point here is that the (so called) "Team" is more concerned about themselves and their ego's than the actual Community that they are supposed to be looking after.

There are two sponsors at this moment - a templates provider and a webhosting provider. If I was accepted as a Corporate Sponsor, I'd be in the same market as both of these, thus giving more choice to the Community.

But, there we are. In the eyes of the "Team", what's right and good for the Community does not matter. And that sucks!

At 7/28/2005 08:25:00 AM, Blogger mikeq said...

It reminded me of George Orwells "Animal Farm"

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others

did a google search on that to make sure I got the quote correct, the first page I came to had this interpretation

The sentence is a comment on the hypocrisy of governments that proclaim the absolute equality of their citizens but give power and privileges to a small elite.

Which sums up things nicely.

At 7/28/2005 01:11:00 PM, Blogger WizardsandWars said...

I gues I should refrain from making any disparaging comments, just in case I ever want to advertise there. ;-)

At 7/28/2005 02:05:00 PM, Blogger Gary B. said...

Indeed. 48 hours later, I'm still waiting for my sponsorship to be cancelled.

Seems I'm OK to be a Community Sponsor, but not a Corporate Sponsor (even though Harald had no clue which Company would have been sponsoring) !!

At 7/28/2005 06:53:00 PM, Blogger Gary B. said...

Somebody must be reading this Blog ;)

harald has now been in contact and agreed to cancel the personal Community Sponsorship.

I noted also that he did not disagree with this comment:

I'm sorry to hear that a healthy relationship does not exist. It must be a personal issue clouding the Teams attitude towards me rather than a business one (as you never enquired which site was to be the
Corporate Sponsor!)

So at least I know now that there is a personal issue ongoing with the "Team", it's a pity that none of them will actually give more detail on actually what it is that I have done that's so wrong!

At 8/01/2005 03:10:00 PM, Blogger Cannuck1964 said...

Hi Gary,

I was wondering what happened to your BLOG at the osc site. I have no idea on the requirements for becoming a sponsor, but I am looking to do this. And well, I have bookmarked your blog here now :)

I noticed you are working with chemo at his forum site as part of the forum Team there, maybe this has to do with the reason??

I do not think posting and helping of people has anything to do with the program, more what will the business/person bring in additions to the project as a whole...

but this is just guessing on my part...

Peter M.

At 8/01/2005 03:25:00 PM, Blogger Gary B. said...

Peter, nice to see you over here..

I noticed you are working with chemo at his forum site as part of the forum Team there, maybe this has to do with the reason??

That is a possibility that I did not think of. However, I think that Harald has more integrity than to punish 1 person because he does not like another. I hope so anyway.

At 8/09/2005 09:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but I have personal experience to the contrary.

At 8/09/2005 10:47:00 AM, Blogger Gary B. said...

Hello "Anonymous" - what do you have personal experience to the contrary of? There's lots of points and issues raised, so if you could let us know more we can then make up our own minds as to what's what...

At 3/26/2006 02:51:00 PM, Anonymous Myles O'Reilly said...

Wish I'd found this blog sooner.
We're also having problems becoming a corporate sponsor. We're getting no response at all for our sponsorship request.
Our marketing strategy relied quite heavily on getting our ads on the osComemrce site.

It seems to me that osCommerce have some sort of vested interest in the businesses they advertise.
Our website would be putting a lot of pressure on their current advertisers.


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